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12 11 2010

Abiding isn’t a programme. Abiding is a relationship. Jesus doesn’t say “I am power cord you are the cell phone.” He says, “I’m the vine. You’re the branch.” If you want life, there can’t be any disconnect. Abiding is living in this constant awareness of total dependence. Abiding is what desperate people do who realize that they have no life, power, no inward resource of themselves.
Josh Harris

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15 11 2010
smithy

i dont believe god created us with ‘no inward resource’. this would mean he was not much of a creator. this belief can paralyses christians into fearful passivity, into quenching the individual uniqueness of the talents and power he gave us, into fearing and ignoring our instincts and individual personality.
there is no ‘desperation’ in abiding either but an acceptance and appreciation and celebration of who we are.

18 11 2010
John Thomson

John 15:4-5 (ESV)
Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Seems pretty conclusive that Jesus teaches we have naturally no resource within ourselves.

I find the fact that my resources are not in my limited self but my unlimited God liberating and reassuring. Nor do I find any inconsistency between this and using by God’s grace the talents and individuality he has given. These once served sin but now in the liberty of my union with Christ through the Spirit serve him (Roms 6).

18 11 2010
smithy

so we agree then, if we are abiding then we are not ‘desperate’ and while limited if not abiding nonetheless still possessing inward resources as part of creation

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